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Closing discussion on deletion/Tariq Hilal Al Barwani

Hello, could I kindly request you to review the discussion & close if no more input required. The page has been in Wikipedia for over 3 years and only requires enhancement at this stage. Obviously the profile person is notable and there are many English and non English sources available from credible sources too. May I humbly ask for you to close the discussion and keep the page as it is legitimate? Thanks in advance TerryWiki12 (talk) 17:27, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Explicit, I've just closed the discussion as delete. You're a much more experienced closer of AfDs than I am. Do you agree with my close?--Bbb23 (talk) 18:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bbb23: Hi, the closure looks perfectly sound to me. I did a quick scan of the two sources present at the AFD and they're essentially copies of each other, indicating press releases, so the "delete" !votes were spot on. plicit 01:22, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bb23, shouldn't we request for enhancement than deleting an article that was credible & legitimate for past 3 years? TerryWiki12 (talk) 21:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page watcher)(Non-administrator comment) Hi TerryWiki12. Three years isn't really a long time when it comes to Wikipedia per se, but it really doesn't matter how long the article existed for the reasons explained in WP:LONGTIME. What would matter, however, is showing how the subject clearly meets WP:BIO. Perhaps, it's just a case of WP:TOOSOON at the moment and the subject may in the future receive the type of WP:SIGCOV deemed necessary for a Wikipedia article to be written about them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:06, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Naughty America logo.jpg

Hi Explicit. You declined this the F8 deletion request for this, which is fine. However, if you look at c:File:Naughty America logo.jpg, you'll see that it appears to be an improperly done crop per c:COM:OVERWRITE and that the older uncropped version is actually the same as the non-free one. Any suggestions on how this should be resolved because the local file is now sort of a mess because of the bad attempt to convert the file's licensing from non-free to PD, and the Commons file is sort of a mess because of the overwriting? I'm sure the intentions were the best in both cases, but it's just that things weren't done very well in either case. Maybe c:COM:SPLIT would resolve both problems? -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:00, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 2022

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Editor making rapid, nonsense !votes at AfD and refusing to accept new sports SNG. Thank you. StAnselm (talk) 18:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request to restore a draft article

Hello! Could you restore Draft:The Adventures of Pinocchio (1911 film) and its history as a sub page (here) for me, so I can keep working on it? --Bensin (talk) 18:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bensin:  Done, the content is now available at User:Bensin/The Adventures of Pinocchio (1911 film). plicit 00:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! --Bensin (talk) 20:42, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks again for restoring both the draft and its history for me. The draft has now been approved, and moved into the article space here: The Adventures of Pinocchio (1911 film). --Bensin (talk) 21:10, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

World Kickboxing Network

Hi, I would like to understand the delation of this renowned Kickboxing organization. The article not only greatly meets WP:GNG with the long list of references, but moreover the WKN is one of the biggest kickboxing organization in the world, and was founded in 1994. WKN evolved as a subsidiary of International Sport Karate Association. The organizations split in 1998 and has been sanctioning world titles since then. Notable fighters have solidified their kickboxing status by competing in the WKN such as Jérôme Le Banner, Batu Khasikov, Nathan Corbett, John Wayne Parr, Artem Levin, Riyadh Al-Azzawi, Andrei Kulebin, Yohan Lidon, Corentin Jallon, GLORY Champion Gabriel Varga ect. The list of notable fighters that have fought under WKN is long. They become notable kickboxers by winning titles such as WKN, but the WKN itself has no encyclopedic page? The information about WKN is pertinent to kickboxing history.

Please take a look at a version of the article archived, to claim it does not pass WP: GNG is false.Archived version

@Lethweimaster: Hi, did you read the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World Kickboxing Network? It was determined that the references in the article were not about the organization itself, but about events it sponsored. plicit 05:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Of course I read it, it was not really a discussion. There was only one person who commented.
Yes there was many article about the events being held, but A quick research and you find independent significant coverage. Easily passes WP: GNG with what I have listed below. What kind of editors are we if we can't research the web to find coverage for the subject of the encyclopedia? Here is a few a found after a quick research.
  • Fightbook.
  • ..prestigious World Kickboxing Network welterweight title.
  • Fightmag
  • The WKN World Cup 2009 is being held in Malta by The Malta Independent
  • Significant history article about notableWorld kickboxing federations in notable kickboxing/Muaythai website: "La WKN est sans nul doute la Fédération Pro No1 au Monde. Présente et active sur les 5 continents, avec des Champions reconnus de haut niveau, elle n’a cessé de croitre pendant les dernières 20 années." English: "The WKN is undoubtedly the World's No1 Pro Federation. Present and active on 5 continents, with recognized high-level Champions, it has continued to believe for the past 20 years" "Avec plus de 200 galas dans le monde et près de 300 Championnats par an, c'est une vraie machine professionnelle qui donne à un titre sa vraie valeur." English: "With more than 200 galas around the world and nearly 300 Championships per year, it's a real professional machine that gives a title its true value."Fédérations : Le temps des vérités à dire We are tlaking about kickboxing history here.
  • Significant, independent coverage in Estonian, WKN, Sylvester Stallone. [3]
  • Simply The Best «Argentina Fight Night» Live on FOX
  • Figthmag
  • It looks like FightMag has deleted most of the coverage from them (maybe in a feud), but the history of WKN (since 1990's is still findable via web archive). The subject has a lot of significant coverage and easily passes WP:GNG, but the editors didn't bother to research it. Not only do we have enough enough coverage, but the claim to notability and the significant impact on the history of kickboxing is significant, with so many legends being associated to this organizations. It's just asinine to not have an encyclopedic article about it. It's needs to be cleanup maybe but defiantly not deleted. Lets bring it back and I will, along with other editors, improve it and expand it. Lethweimaster (talk) 10:35, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lethweimaster: I have restored the page and moved it into draftspace at Draft:World Kickboxing Network. This will allow you to work on the page and submit it through the WP:AFC process, which I think will be a good way to allow other experienced editors to review the content. plicit 01:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kaos (TV series) deletion

Hi @Explicit, I want to make an article about the upcoming Netflix series, Kaos. I've been notified by admin that you have deleted previous attempt to create article related to Kaos. May I know why? I don't want to waste my time creating the article only for it to be deleted/ignored/unpublished. Thank you for your consideration. WikiNarco (talk) 08:55, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WikiNarco: Hi, I'm guessing you mean Draft:Kaos (TV series), which you have already recreated. This page was deleted in accordance with WP:CSD#G13 as a draft that did not receive any edits for six months. You can request to restore its history at WP:REFUND. plicit 05:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay thanks for the info. WikiNarco (talk) 06:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hey there, just curious, is there any actual article content that was deleted with Kyogami, or was it just a simple redirect? BOZ (talk) 17:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BOZ: Hi, Kyogami was created in 2007 as an article and redirected in 2019 by Rorshacma with the edit summary, "Redirecting non-sourced article on minor board game to article on its publisher." This was the content in the revision before being redirected. plicit 05:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK, thanks! That is amazingly helpful, and exactly what I needed to know. BOZ (talk) 11:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image copyright concern

Explicit, I'm coming to you from Liz's talk page with a copyright question[4]. Not long ago an editor added this image to the commons [5]. They then added the picture to an article[6] in a way that doesn't appear to comply with the copyright fair use exception. I don't know the origin of the picture but it seems like a number of similar pictures seen in news articles about the Kenosha Unrest Shooting. It appears to be used in the same capacity in our article. We aren't analyzing the picture itself or transforming it into something new. Instead we are saying "this is a picture of that person that night" which seems to be non-transformative to me (not an IP lawyer). Absent some clear ruling that this use is a copyright violation I don't want to simply remove what is otherwise an appropriate picture from the article. Would you please offer some guidance? Thanks. Springee (talk) 02:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Springee: Hi, first, as this file is licensed as fair use, it would not qualify for deletion as a copyright violation. Instead, its use must be evaluated against the non-free content criteria. A non-free image of a perpetrator being used in an article about the incident has historically been contentious, so the results of these types of discussions are generally inconsistent. I would suggest nominating the file for deletion at WP:FFD citing your concerns about its failures of abiding by the aforementioned NFCC policy. plicit 02:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk:2016 Election leaks

I saw you deleted Talk:2016 Election leaks because the article doesnt exist yet. The Talk page was created because of the proposed merger of 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak and Podesta emails to that new page. I read the Merge pages and it seems the proper place for a discussion is on the Talk page of the proposed merge article, which is why I put it there. Otherwise theres two discussion spaces on the DNC and Podesta talk pages.

Is there a different or better way to do this? Did I do it wrong?

Id like to restore a discussion space asap, since theres no explanation for why anymore or anywhere for editors to talk about. Softlemonades (talk) 13:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Softlemonades: Hi, the page was subject to speedy deletion per the pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page criterion. It makes the discussion a little difficult to find if it's placed on a talk page of an article that doesn't exist, don't you think? You may want to consider using Template:Merge, which is accompanied with instructions that may aid you in putting your proposal forward, on the affected articles. The template can point to a single centralized discussion that can occur on either talk page. plicit 13:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi! Thanks for your quick response.
I used the template on both pages, pointing to the Talk page that was deleted for discussion. Text like "By default, the Discuss link on the template links to the top of the destination page's talk page." from the Merge template made me think the Election Leaks talk page would be the right one to use. If its fine to use one of the existing articles talk page for the discussion, thats good with me.
Ill recreate the discussion on one of the pages then and update the templats to point to that. Thanks for talking and helping me figure out how to do this! Softlemonades (talk) 14:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Page Re-creation

Hi Explicit, I have created a page that was deleted by you previously: Afternoon Voice. Please check if it fits under wiki guidelines. LGF 56 (talk) 10:10, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


What Is a Rumpletilskin? needs to be deleted also. SL93 (talk) 23:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@SL93:  Done, thanks for pointing that out! plicit 23:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for userfy

Could I get Draft:Quantum holography userfied to User:Bri/Quantum holography? I don't remember there being any other editors on it. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bri: Sure thing. Done and done! plicit 04:22, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Explicit, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faisal Shaikh I have made a mistake. I was trying to get another person into Afd. Please delete from Afd. SORRY PravinGanechari (talk) 12:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you PravinGanechari (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PravinGanechari: No worries! plicit 12:29, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Early PROD deletions

You don't need to delete dozens of the file PRODs ahead of time just because you are heading off-line and you will not be the admin who is handling them. There are other admins who can address them when their time is up. This seems really petty, like doing hundreds of PROD deletions in a batch deletion, hours before their time expires (you deleted them all at 00:10 UTC when some were tagged to expire at 03:00 UTC). I delete empty categories a little early simply because I know you will if I don't.

I try to not post on your talk page but this seems like it is getting out-of-hand and is pretty silly behavior for admins. Can't we abide by the clock and take care of pages when they are scheduled to be deleted and stop this game? You, if nothing else, follow the rules and you can't be this anxious to add to your deletion totals that you ignore basic guidelines on waiting until PRODs are due to be deleted instead of deleting them too early. I'll abide by these guidelines if you will! Liz Read! Talk! 15:54, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Liz: Oh, I love this! Speaking of early deletions, let's look at all these pages you deleted ahead of schedule by at least an hour.
Maybe half an hour early is more acceptable for you?
Hmm, no. Let's scale it back... to three hours head of schedule!
For someone who is so against deleting PRODs ahead of schedule, this is a bad look for you.
I don't expect a response, but then again, you're not the type of person to hold any expectations for. plicit 23:44, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Transfer to Commons

Hi Explicit, I would like to see if this file can transfer to Commons:

File:Chervang Kong Vang, teaching Nyiakeng Puachue, May 6 2017.jpg

This (freely-licensed) file was PRODed for being unused.

Best, Joofjoof (talk) 01:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Joofjoof: Hi, the licensing appears to be good for transferring to Commons. May I ask where this file will be used? plicit 01:18, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks - from the title, it sounds appropriate for the Nyiakeng Puachue Hmong or Hmong writing articles. Joofjoof (talk) 01:32, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Joofjoof: Sounds good, I have restored the file and transferred it to Commons. plicit 01:36, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! I have added it to Hmong_writing#Nyiakeng_Puachue_Hmong. Joofjoof (talk) 02:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Closing AFDs

Hello, Explicit,

I'm leaving you this note because you probably close more AFD discussions than any admin. But, going through a log today, I noticed that editor Handmeanotherbagofthemchips posted "Delete per nom" on dozens of AFD discussions. Occasionally, they add an additional comment but it's mostly a throwaway delete comment that should be discounted. I posted a comment on their talk page but I also wanted to alert you so you knew when you see them that there are so many of these comments, they don't demonstrate that the editor even looked at the article being discussed.

Any way, I hope you are well and having a restful weekend. Liz Read! Talk! 07:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request to restore a draft article

(talk) 16:01, 15 August 2021 (BST) Hi, I've noticed you have requested to remove the Rapita Systems draft Draft:Rapita Systems. Would it be possible for you to give reasoning behind the deletion?

Also raised at WP:REFUND, discussion moved to User talk:otaytay. Nthep (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

article recreation

Hello. I hope you are doing well. You had deleted Muhammad Aziz Arfaj after an AfD, and it has been recreated. Could you kindly check if it is similar in content? Thanks, —usernamekiran (talk) 05:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Usernamekiran: Hi, the content is more-or-less the same, which some additional information added in this recreation. However, since the AFD resulted in "soft delete", the article is not eligible for speedy deletion in accordance with WP:CSD#G4 because the deletion was treated as an expired WP:PROD. It will need to go through AFD again if you feel that the subject does not meet notability guidelines. plicit 11:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks. See you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 17:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion of non free images

Explicit you deleted a number of non free files I uploaded to the New South Wales Police Force strip search scandal article. Some of those files had previosuly been deleted on the basis of WP:F5 and WP:F7 violations, however I wasn't familiar with the rules regarding WP:NFCC or how they applied in practice at the time. Most of those files you deleted had been flagged for WP:NFCC#8 violations. I felt that there were legitimate reasons to keep those files in the article and I left a message on each file's talk page explaining this. I understand that the NFCC criteria is strict, however I feel at the very least that those files should have been referred to FF:FFD for further discussion.

The files in question were: File:Lessons Learned Unit Screensaver.png File:Police Minister Strip Search Comments.ogv File:Mick Fuller Daily Telegraph 2019.jpg File:Police Tent Splendour 2017 2.jpg There's also another file which is pending deletion.

I know it's possible that those files may end up being deleted anyway, but nonetheless I still feel that they should be restored and referred to FFD first where a discussion can take place beforehand. Thank you OpticalBloom241 (talk) 05:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@OpticalBloom241: Very well, this is a reasonable request to allow further discussion regarding the usage of these media files. I will undelete these listed files so they can be discussed at FFD. Pinging Marchjuly and Fastily, who have previously tagged these for deletion. plicit 11:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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