Gpedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bangladesh

Jump to navigation Jump to search

This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Bangladesh. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

Adding a new AfD discussion
Adding an AfD to this page does not add it to the main page at WP:AFD. Similarly, removing an AfD from this page does not remove it from the main page at WP:AFD. If you want to nominate an article for deletion, go through the process on that page before adding it to this page. To add a discussion to this page, follow these steps:
  1. Edit this page and add {{Gpedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} to the top of the list. Replace "PageName" with the relevant article name, i.e. the one on the existing AFD discussion. Also, indicate the title of the article in the edit summary as it is particularly helpful to add a link to the article in the edit summary. When you save the page, the discussion will automatically appear.
  2. You should also tag the AfD by adding {{subst:delsort|Bangladesh|~~~~}} to it, which will inform editors that it has been listed here. You may place this tag above or below the nomination statement or at the end of the discussion thread.
Note that there are a few scripts and tools that can make this easier.
Removing a closed AfD discussion
Closed AfD discussions are automatically removed by a bot.
Other types of discussions
You can also add and remove links to other discussions (prod, CfD, TfD etc.) related to Bangladesh.
Further information
For further information see Gpedia's deletion policy and WP:AfD for general information about Articles for Deletion, including a list of article deletions sorted by day of nomination.

This list is also part of the larger list of deletion debates related to Asia.

Archived discussions (starting from September 2007) may be found at:
Purge page cache watch


Bangladesh

Mizanur Rahman (cricket umpire)

Mizanur Rahman (cricket umpire) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

Fails WP:NCRIC. Ts12rActalk to me 16:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails the updated WP:NCRIC guidelines, and I'm not seeing anything in a search that would suggest a GNG pass (although this was only really an English language source). We don't really keep lists of umpires also, so not seeing a suitable WP:ATD either. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:53, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete, although on the grounds that no suitable sources to show notability can be found. Failing NCRIC alone is not, in my view, a suitable rationale for deletion. It might indicate that deletion is an option and can be part of that rationale. If suitable non-English language sources can be found, then sure, I'd keep it. I doubt that'll be the case given the sorts of coverage we generally get of umpires who have not themselves played at the top level and are at his stage of career in the modern game. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete. An example of why most umpires were removed from NCRIC – they do not generate the required significant coverage to pass GNG. wjematherplease leave a message... 11:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

The Golden Bengal Tea

The Golden Bengal Tea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

Advertisement, though I think without coi. Even the title use the trade name, complete with "The" The sources are all identical or almost identical, apparently copies of the same press release (as far as I could judge by Google translate). I couldn't copy The Wall to translate it, and abplive is at least partially rewritten, but uses the same phrases. Is there any independent source that is not a press release?

Several other teas also show up in Google, from different places and with different names, all claiming to be the most expensive tea in the world, such as "Silver Tips Imperial" DGG ( talk ) 16:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Habibur Rahman (journalist)

Habibur Rahman (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

IMO, non-notable journalist. Most of sources are same, almost identical writing, they basically published same press release from Dhaka Reporters Unity about this person death (WP:NEWSEVENT). Prior to the person death, i was unable to find one single source about the person. Death in road accident doesn't make someone notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also fails every criteria of WP:JOURNALIST. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 14:51, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Does not meet NBIO or GNG. This was tagged for notability just a couple of revisions after its creation. -Cupper52Discuss! 15:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: The media coverage is centered on the motorcycle accident. If there was grounds for inclusion, the subject of the article would be about the accident (e..g, Joigny coach crash), not the journalist. The extent of the media coverage was only one day. However, given the event was recent, there might be more coverage in the future due to political statements by Awami League party members. No indication it meets any guideline at this moment. Multi7001 (talk) 03:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Masud Rana (singer-songwriter)

Masud Rana (singer-songwriter) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

Borderline A7 eligible article on a non notable singer who doesn’t meet any criterion from WP:SINGER and in general lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them. A before search only turns up user generated sources. Celestina007 (talk) 19:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Zobeda Khanom Chowdhury

Zobeda Khanom Chowdhury (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

The subject has no reason to be notable and sources do not prove otherwise. Notability is not inherited from her son. Apart from a single source (M. R. Mahbub) we have no significant coverage of the subject even in Bengali. If Mahbub's claim that she was among the first Muslim women to join politics in Bangladesh were true (it isn't), such a scarcity of sources is not to be expected: Language Movement has attracted attention of thousands of scholars in S. Asia across the last few decades. Anyways, a single source and some name-drops cannot guarantee passage of WP:N. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment. I do not read Bengali but the statement that the "subject has no reason to be notable" is about as far from the lede as possible, which says a leading woman of the Bengali language movement and one of the pioneering women in Bangladeshi politics. TrangaBellam, do you think this statement is fabricated? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Such subjective claims are of no value and not supported by scholarship. The body has a lot of objective details and I leave the judgement to you. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. @AleatoryPonderings: I had edited an article drafted by TrangaBellam with good faith a couple of hours ago but they were not content with these edits and thus responded by criticising a number of my recent article translations from Bengali to English. This is very inappropriate behaviour. SalamAlayka (talk) 20:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:14, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm baffled by the nominator's WP:NOTINHERITED argument. The article text only mentions her son briefly and he doesn't even have his own article. There's no obvious attempt to coatrack notability here. pburka (talk) 22:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
    One of the many arguments.
    Overall, there were thousands of ML Women Cells each having their Muslim women office bearers, who partook in routine party bureaucracy and outreach including submitting memorandum etc and dissenting with higher ups. None of this is an exception including criticism by press. The acts engaged in by our subject do not seem significant enough to merit anything more than a footnote in the annals of Language Movement. There were many women with far-significant contributions.
    And a profile over a single book by a single scholar arguing the subject to be some kind of revolutionary woman (minus the evidence) is not sufficient to pass notability guidelines either. TrangaBellam (talk) 23:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Comment The article says her son died in 1952 but according to this Obituary he died in 2008. Or is this a different son?Vinegarymass911 (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Al Imran Mahin

Al Imran Mahin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

Does not meet WP:ANYBIO, WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. No reliable sources cited, only press releases which are clearly paid for by the subject. Full source analysis to follow. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Source assessment table:
(This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor.)
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12822277/ No No See WP:IMDB No Brief bio on user-generated website No
https://www.jagonews24.com/jago-jobs/article/704208 No No As per the footnote, this is written by a uni student No No
https://english.newstracklive.com/news/meet-with-a-famous-musician-actor-and-entrepreneur-al-imran-mahin-sc39-nu293-ta293-1175983-1.html No Largely copied and pasted from his IMDb page No The fact that this is a copyvio from a user-generated source makes me concerned that this is not professional journalism No No
https://bollywoodmascot.com/bollywood-news/nia-sharma-got-trolled-by-sharing-the-pole-dance-video-on-her-instagram/ ? No No author, no professional journalist involved No Pure spam with no actual substance, just pure puff piece No
https://samakal-com.translate.goog/entertainment/article/211079770/-%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2-%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%8B%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%A4%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8?_x_tr_sl=bn&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc ? ? No Routine song announcement No
https://www.risingbd.com/english/campus/news/82715 ? Yes I think Risingbd.com is generally considered okay Contains some claims to notability such as awards and some coverage of his life. Disappointed to see a lot of promotional content such as "He knows how to control and become a master in a potential field- a trait that is a huge reason behind his current success." and "With unwavering dedication, perseverance, and hard work, Al Imran has been able to establish a successful organization at a very young age." which are disappointing to see from a supposedly reputable news source ? Unknown
https://www.dhakatimes24.com/2021/11/16/238744 No No Generic reporter rather than a named journalist Not much independent content as it's largely based off a supposed interview with the subject, like every other source cited here. No
Table created using {{source assess table}}

Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 20:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Greater Bangladesh

Greater Bangladesh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

There is no concept of Greater Bangladesh that includes the entire Northeast India. The lead says this is a conspiracy theory. This does not belong in Gpedia Chaipau (talk) 01:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 02:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep, this appears to be a very well-documented conspiracy theory that is easily passes WP:GNG, the article could perhaps be renamed to “Greater Bangladesh conspiracy theory” but there’s no reason to delete. Devonian Wombat (talk) 02:59, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep - Appears to be a well documented legit political conspiracy theory that has actually had real world rammifcaitions, including resulting in violence and death, so certainly deserves an article IMHO. Tied in to current migration. Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:02, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Languages of the Indian subcontinent

Languages of the Indian subcontinent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · WP Library)

As made clear from this discussion, there isn't scope for a separate article from Languages of South Asia. This should be redirected there. – Uanfala (talk) 18:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

The lede also contains untenable errors such as the statement excluding Austro-Asiatic languages (which are firmly entrenched in the areal linguistics of the Indian subcontinent). There is no scholarly definition of Indic that makes them "less Indic" than Indo-Aryan or Dravidian languages.Austronesier (talk) 21:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep or move. Like Usedtobecool has pointed out above, there is still confusion as to what the title of the page should be. Since South Asia and Indian subcontinent are almost considered the same, I understand the point that the page feels like an unnecessary fork; moving the page under a better title could be a good option. My major point of concern is that all our discussions still do not answer the question of why there is a lot of good literature mentioning Indic in the context of Indo-Aryan and Dravidian instead of just Indo-Aryan, as can be easily seen by browsing https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=indic+languages . I think that the discussions are not yet concrete enough, and should continue on the Talk page before converging about the redirection or moving to another page, especially to ensure someone does not come-up with this confusion again and recreates the same thing. Thank you! BawaseerKhwaja (talk) 05:09, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Comment Most citations for "Indic languages" in Google Scholar are from papers in Computational Linguistics written by Indian scholars. I can't see that these papers explicitly restrict "Indic" to Indo-Aryan (IA) and Dravidian. Their actual scope might indeed eventually turn out to include only IA and Dravidian languages, but that's because they apply their methods to the most widely spoken languages in the subcontinent. Tibeto-Burmese (TB) and Austro-Asiatic (AA) languages simply cannot numerically compete with the "big ones" like Hindi, Bengali, Tamil and Telugu. So the apparent "exclusion" of TB and AA languages from papers about "Indic" is just a demographic artefact. –Austronesier (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Probably you are right. I have made an edit in the article now mentioning other related families as well as a possibility. Please feel free to edit. BawaseerKhwaja (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 00:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete for multiple reasons. (1)Per nominator, the article can be merged with Languages of South Asia, which is more general in nature. (2) The title is not neutral. It is focusing on India. If kept, it will be a potential source for vandilism. I suggest to avoid the phrase "Indian subcontinent" in general to describe other neighbouring countries. (3) Article is incomplete because it fails to list cover all the "indic" languages. (4) The article is erronous; for example Nepali is spoken in Bhutan and China(sothern Tibet) as well. nirmal (talk) 10:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
<div style="font-size: x-small;">The article is a derivative under the <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>. A link to the original article can be found <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Deletion_sorting%2FBangladesh">here</a> and attribution parties <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Bangladesh&amp;action=history">here</a>. By using this site, you agree to the <a href="https://www.gpedia.com/terms-of-use.php">Terms of Use</a>. Gpedia Ⓡ is a registered trademark of the Cyberajah Pty Ltd.</div>