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Masud Khan (Musician)

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Borderline WP:A7, but does have some claim of importance. It's an autobiography about a musician turned entrepreneur who meets neither WP:GNG nor WP:MUSICIAN. Almost all of the coverage is based on interviews or information from the subject himself. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 09:34, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

This is an autobiography and the user has had drafts rejected on it before. Not sure what the protocol is there (still learning), but probably merge with Draft:Masud Khan (musician)? Skarmory (talk • contribs) 09:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Al Imran Mahin

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Does not meet WP:ANYBIO, WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. No reliable sources cited, only press releases which are clearly paid for by the subject. Full source analysis to follow. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Source assessment table:
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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12822277/ No No See WP:IMDB No Brief bio on user-generated website No
https://www.jagonews24.com/jago-jobs/article/704208 No No As per the footnote, this is written by a uni student No No
https://english.newstracklive.com/news/meet-with-a-famous-musician-actor-and-entrepreneur-al-imran-mahin-sc39-nu293-ta293-1175983-1.html No Largely copied and pasted from his IMDb page No The fact that this is a copyvio from a user-generated source makes me concerned that this is not professional journalism No No
https://bollywoodmascot.com/bollywood-news/nia-sharma-got-trolled-by-sharing-the-pole-dance-video-on-her-instagram/ ? No No author, no professional journalist involved No Pure spam with no actual substance, just pure puff piece No
https://samakal-com.translate.goog/entertainment/article/211079770/-%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2-%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A7%8B%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE-%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%A4%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%A8-%E0%A6%97%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8?_x_tr_sl=bn&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc ? ? No Routine song announcement No
https://www.risingbd.com/english/campus/news/82715 ? Yes I think Risingbd.com is generally considered okay Contains some claims to notability such as awards and some coverage of his life. Disappointed to see a lot of promotional content such as "He knows how to control and become a master in a potential field- a trait that is a huge reason behind his current success." and "With unwavering dedication, perseverance, and hard work, Al Imran has been able to establish a successful organization at a very young age." which are disappointing to see from a supposedly reputable news source ? Unknown
https://www.dhakatimes24.com/2021/11/16/238744 No No Generic reporter rather than a named journalist Not much independent content as it's largely based off a supposed interview with the subject, like every other source cited here. No
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Kaka Muhammad Umar

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No significant coverage and the article was created by a blocked user. Sabeelul hidaya (talk) 12:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Bilal Mahmood

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Seeking a redirect to 2022 California's 17th State Assembly district special election. I have done some research into the subject and cleaned the article in recent days. Most coverage appears to be linked to Stanford (his alma mater) or refer to the subject in relation to his candidacy in the 17th district election. Doesn't seem notable to me per WP:POLITICIAN. BriefEdits (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Ally Isom

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Use of deprecated sources. Might fail GNG. Upon Google search, there are a few results from reliable sources, but mostly passing mentions, no significant coverage. Tame (talk) 10:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Gehrke, Gary (December 29, 2010). "Herbert names new spokeswoman". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. Gov. Gary Herbert named Ally Isom as his new deputy chief of staff and communications director Wednesday as part of a major overhaul of his senior staff heading into the legislative session.
  2. ^ Gehrke, Robert (November 16, 2013). "Herbert's deputy chief of staff leaving for more family time". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.
  3. ^ Rolly, Paul (November 11, 2016). "Rolly: Herbert's former spokeswoman quits the GOP". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16. "Dear GOP, you may have won an election yesterday, but you lost me," wrote Ally Isom, who now is director of Family and Community Relations for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  4. ^ "Robert Gehrke: Frustrated with Trump, these LDS women are calling for change, but will it matter?". The Salt Lake Tribune. Retrieved 2022-01-16.
  5. ^ "Why does Utah have so few female legislators?". PBS NewsHour. 2016-10-09. Retrieved 2022-01-16.

- DaffodilOcean (talk) 23:20, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Draftify and retarget to 2022 United States Senate election in Utah#Republican primary. As the creator of this article, which was created as a redirect, it does not yet meet WP:GNG, but could meet it if Isom wins a primary. In that case, draftify it so it can be worked on so that an article can be created if Isom wins the primary, and change the redirect target that arises as a result of the move to the page of the election which Isom is running in, which is the Republican primary of the 2022 United States Senate election in Utah, as per convention of not-yet notable American political candidates. Muhibm0307 (talk) 07:45, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
    Agree with @Muhibm0307's proposal. Tame (talk) 07:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Chris Grove

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Businessman BLP doesn't seem to meet WP:ANYBIO- coverage is either not independent or merely WP:PASSING mentions about the person. MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Christopher Joye

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Same deletion rationale as the previous AfD, because the same content issues still apply, given the content has not changed since its undeletion. Non-notable biography, 80% of the references on the page cite works that are directly written by the subject, notability not established from third-party reliable sources, article prose is excessively promotional. The overwhelming majority of Google hits are either LinkedIn pages, promotional pages, company staff lists, blogs, columnist profiles, articles that the subject has written themselves, or a one-sentence very passing mention of the subject. This article likely exists for the purpose of search engine optimization, and does not serve any encyclopedic purpose that is within project scope. --benlisquareTCE 15:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete or at best WP:TNT If the unreferenced content is removed, and the primary and non independent referenced content is removed, and the self congratulatory content is removed, there is very very little left. There is sufficent material to be found to write a reasonable stub article but that is about it. There are some "good" looking references such as this?and some balance like this? to be found about the subject, but that is about it, and I tried hard I think. If kept it needs to be redone from scratch. Aoziwe (talk) 11:34, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Gary Dahl (entrepreneur)

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Proposing delete or merge with Pet Rock. He is the founder of Pet Rock, a company that sold rocks and had a short success for 6 months. He is only known for that. He hardly made $4 million and not in anyway a household name. Caphadouk (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

William Green Foulke

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Fails WP:NBIO. Bbarmadillo (talk) 09:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Justin Ishbia

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Lack of independent, reliable and significant coverage. Pure reference bombing. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 20:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Mandar Agashe

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Procedural listing per close of Gpedia:Deletion review/Log/2022 January 2. No opinion from me. Daniel (talk) 20:30, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Neutral for now. It does seem to have the hallmarks of paid editing. Deb (talk) 18:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete (tentative vote). A laundry list of sources have been provided in the DRV linked by Daniel. @SmokeyJoe: checked a few of them and found them passing mentions and/or not indepedent. I've independently clicked on about 5 sources there or in the article itself and felt the same. It's possible there's wheat among the chaff or other better sources available, but someone will need to make a WP:THREE argument if that's the case. Martinp (talk) 19:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Neil Patel (digital marketer)

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Procedural nomination and I am neutral in this nom with my !vote to come below. Agree with the decline of the speedy (courtesy @Bbb23:) and the closure of Gpedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Neil_Patel_review, but as this has been deleted at Gpedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Patel (entrepreneur) and Gpedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Patel (online marketing strategist), I feel like this needs larger discussion and possible resolution. Star Mississippi 17:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Weak Delete I thought the book might actually help establish notability, but he is only co-author. This isn't in enough depth for a review and this is of questionable independence or editorial oversight. While the article appears well referenced, I do not think he is a notable businessman when taking into account the quality of the sourcing. I do not think we have a bad faith creation issue, however, as the prior creators do not appear connected and this may just be an alternate view of what his "title" is. Star Mississippi 17:51, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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  • Comment He appears to have been a contributor to Forbes, based on a GNews search and his book seems to have been on the New York Times best seller list per the Forbes bio. Would seem to be notable, but neutral at this time until better sources are brought up.Oaktree b (talk) 23:09, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment - likewise waiting for better sources but on present showing, if there's any notability here it seems to go with the book, not the man.Ingratis (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete: Evidently a known figure to those who follow digital marketing publications. However, the subject's bylines in business publications do not establish any notability, since contributing writers to Inc., Entrepreneur, Business 2 Community, and Forbes tend to be a mix of non-authoritative and authoritative people, with clear marketing objectives. The only decent sources are the NYTimes and Fortune. However, both make the case of notability for the subject's published material, but not the subject itself. Reliable, independent sources by staff writers or editorial staff covering the subject are needed to establish notability. Multi7001 (talk) 04:07, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment This is like a Hydra where the page is deleted only for another one to resurface. I'm wondering how a dormant account who's never created an article before suddenly creates one and it's on a subject who's had a contentious past here. At the very least, it's suspicious. MaskedSinger (talk) 06:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete - appears to be a case of using WP to market one's marketing business. Atsme 💬 📧 20:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete does not meet WP:GNG in my opinion; cannot find significant coverage in reliable sources. (t · c) buidhe 21:38, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete and SALT this and previous namespaces. best, GPL93 (talk) 23:32, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete and salt all the different incarnations of this page. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 01:13, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Carlos St. James

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Subject does not meet requirements of notability IvanMilsbein (talk) 15:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC) Page appears to be self-promotion and resume content. Refer to criteria for determining whether person is notable here: [[1]] IvanMilsbein (talk) 16:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

"Maurizio Bragagni"

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Does not appear to pass WP:GNG, many sources available are not significant coverage, only thing I could find is this which is not much, and highly dubious as to whether that site passes WP:RS Garnarblarnar (talk) 23:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Thank you...that does make it easier for me. Nate (chatter) 21:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Likely disclosed paid editing. Has COI issues and was previously deleted. Being an honorary consul is an accolade that can bought by wealthy businessmen, but it does not make them more notable. HᴇʀᴘᴇᴛᴏGᴇɴᴇꜱɪꜱ (talk) 10:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Seems more like a WP:RESUME than an article, talking about all the titles the subject has katamari'ed onto it than what they did to deserve all those titles, and the mention of their job is sourced to PR about merely being at COP26; definite COI issues. Nate (chatter) 21:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete - Article reads more like a WP:RESUME than an article in an encyclopaedia. The subject appears to be an accomplished person, but not notable enough for their own Gpedia article and so this should be deleted. Such-change47 (talk) 12:48, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG does not have encyclopedic knowledge Juggyevil (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete not even remotely close to being notable. Being a regular consul is almost never grounds for notability, even if you are a consul general for a major country in one of their major export markets, even being ambassador is not a default grounds for notability. Honorary consuls are basically non-notable for that period, although some are notable for other things. Nothing about this article suggests Bragagni is such a case.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Adam Andrzejewski

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This article was previously nominated for deletion in 2009 and the verdict was to delete the article (see Gpedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Andrzejewski). I have seen nothing in the past twelve years that leads me to believe the subject is notable for the purposes of Gpedia. See notability for political figures. Mpen320 (talk) 22:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete When you explicitly state the number of employees of a compony and it is below 200 and the revenu and it is below $25 million post-2000, you are clearly trying to hard. Same with mentioning attending a dinner at the white house, or really anywhere. This guy was a candidate for a gubanatorial nomination, and he came in 5th. Most of the coverage is that or hyper local. His attempts to change the way governments publicize their spending have not gotten the coverage to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:NPOL. KidAdSPEAK 01:36, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:NPOL. [[User:Davidoooo123| — Preceding undated comment added 13:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Shelley Sullivan

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Hopelessly promotional and so minimally notable (if at all) to be not worth fixing. Most of the references are promotional or trivial material. Most of the content is, correspondingly, trivial or promotional material.

The original editor in 2007 was a single purpose editor who has not contributed anything else at all almost all subsequent edits were made by a succession of other spas, culminating in someone whose username was so obvious as to attract attention, (Rebecca Sullivan ModelCo ) DGG ( talk ) 22:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete probable WP:COI editing. Fails WP:BIO. Most of her awards are not notable. LibStar (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per Libstar - fails WP:BIO and likely COI editing. Deus et lex (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Are the awards notable, or just padding the article. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Comment - @Oaktree b: they just seem to be padding. If you do some research, the way some of the awards are referenced in the article make it look like they are more prestigious than they actually are - e.g. the subject of the article didn't actually receive the national Businesswoman of the Year award by Telstra in 2004, she just received a "Telstra Business Owner Award" (search this link to see - she's under Shelley Williams); similarly the EY Entrepeneur of the Year award is an international award, but she only received a "Young Entrepreneur" award and it was only the Australian award (and neither of them are referenced on the main awards page). Obtaining the top award in either category would be notable but I don't think the two awards she has received of themselves are enough to keep the article. Deus et lex (talk) 22:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete- per nom. Agree she fails WP:GNG; agree WP:COI; agree page created/developed by WP:SPA. Also note page appears deliberately curated so as to appear to pass GNG. Cabrils (talk) 00:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Dennis Malamatinas

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Non-notable businessman. I'm unable to find coverage which demonstrates that WP:BIO is met. SmartSE (talk) 11:12, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete Only the expected references in the media, or listings, because of his position in some companies. (I also searched his name in Greek, Ντένης Μαλαματίνας.) ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 14:05, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete can't find in-depth articles about him. MartinWilder (talk) 01:07, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep We should try to dig in more information as the age of the person signifies that there might be many sources not available online. It might have been published before the internet era. Secondly his presence in 'The Guardian' and 'Wall Street Journal' shows that he holds notability as per Gpedia WP:BASIC. His contribution to the field of business is remarkable. We should contribute to improve the scale of the page for c Class.Social Megatron (talk) 11:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Socialmegatron (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete No evidence of any SIGCOV from reliable and independent sources or claim of notability in the article. Brayan ocaner (talk) 23:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)e
  • Keep. CEO of an extremely significant company. This should lead to the liklihood that it will be possible to find adequate sources. DGG ( talk ) 02:10, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Arfius Al-din

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN, Gpedia:Record charts says... iTunes: Charts pertaining to only one specific retailer should not be used. Theroadislong (talk) 10:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://dailyasianage.com/news/276674/arfius-al-din-elita-karim-habib--top-musicians-collaborate-with-spotify-bangladesh No No 'AA Online Desk' rather than a journalist No Passing mention No
https://www.jamunaprotidin.com/archives/41030 No No 'Special Correspondent' rather than a journalist Yes Extremely promotional and looks like it was written by Arfius himself or someone close to him No
https://asiannews.in/arfius-al-din-the-tale-of-a-digital-creator-entrepreneur-and-the-famous-musician/ No No Advert masquerading as a news article Yes Contains depth but is spammy No
https://www.risingbd.com/positive-bangladesh/news/433954 ? ? Running through a translator, the content seems promotional to me ? ? Unknown
https://thevistek.com/here-meet-with-arfius-al-din-a-person-with-versatile-talents/ No No Pure promotion No Just duplicates content already covered above No
https://www.bd24live.com/bangla/418819/ ? ? No Duplication of content posted across other sites No
https://www.nowadays24.com/arfius-al-dins-song-beautiful-become-tops-bangladeshi-itunes-chart-no-01/ No No Blog, not proper journalism No Routine song announcement No
https://ventsmagazine.com/2021/10/03/the-famous-musician-arfius-al-din-shares-his-own-experiences-to-motivate-the-new-young-music-entrepreneurs/ No No Covert advertising No Rehashing of the same content No
http://www.pure24news.com/news/437?fbclid=IwAR3WF3VjnZ1pAz0AV-3rC2gwko1jlhQHUXMISdGaWtz-2lxnChCOUjGUGkI ? ? No Brief and not substantial No
https://bdchitro.com/%e0%a6%a8%e0%a6%a4%e0%a7%81%e0%a6%a8-%e0%a6%ac%e0%a6%9b%e0%a6%b0%e0%a7%87%e0%a6%b0-%e0%a6%b6%e0%a7%81%e0%a6%b0%e0%a7%81%e0%a6%a4%e0%a7%87-%e0%a6%86%e0%a6%b8%e0%a6%9b%e0%a7%87-%e0%a6%86%e0%a6%b2/?fbclid=IwAR0xBYliZTTyCAb9GVJ_0LxvZe7GTVXM1c-WkTs6YibL-DOQYvKAWq6zmdk ? ? No Lacks substance, rehashing of same material No
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  • Delete - I was about to tag it (page seen from the Teahouse). My source assessment roughly matches Spiderone’s. The only difference is that I would not have called thevistek.com "pure promotion", but it is indeed a duplicate of the content in [2] (maybe either of the two is a copyvio of the other, but press-release-through-shady-outlets seems like a better theory). I copied my intended below without modification because I am too lazy for transparency.
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There are some sources, but I believe none that counts toward notability after close inspection.

To start with, [3] and [4] are passing mentions, although the latter does verify the "top Bangladeshi itunes chart for a month" claim.

I contend the rest are puff pieces, paid for and controlled by the subject, even though there is no direct mention of paid-for editing in any of those.

  1. [5] is a full-length biography. But come on, From a young lad in a village to one of the most successful adolescents in the country,Arfius Al-din kept no stones unturned to establish himself. - really? We are supposed to believe those are words chosen by an independent journalist? Notice the photo (black and white, holding a guitar over the shoulder).
  2. [6] is at best an interview, at worst a puff piece. I would bet on the second due to the site banner "make your brand far and wide, get featured on Asian News". Notice the photo (smiling on grass background).
  3. [7] is quite puff-y. In isolation I would say "low-quality but usable". What kills it for me is that it has the same photo as the Asian News piece, so at the very least the "journalist" outsourced that part to the subject; the obvious suspicion is that the writing has been outsourced, too.
  4. [8] Another puff piece, with the Asian News photo.

I cannot read Bengali, but [9], [10] have the "Asian News" photo, [11] and [12] have the "Jamuna Protidin" photo.

WP:BEFORE turned up [13] (which is a copy-paste of the "thevistek" piece, supporting the "press release laundering" theory, although one could be copyvio of the other) as well as yet another puff piece with the same photo.

TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

There are more references added for prove the person's notability and person is not promotional nor my personal close. Please do what best for wikipedia. But, most of the time some notable person is neglected by the community and who like me try to take forward there are always some resistance. Newspaper never write a person with researches or without knowing a person. But, yes he is underrated. Do whatever best for wikipedia. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dadu1212 (talkcontribs) (moved from the talk page by TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC))

  • Newspaper never write a person with[out] researches or without knowing a person - anyone who has looked at the articles for deletion long enough knows that is false in the general case, and here we have two articles (this, that) which are supposedly from independent publications but are in fact 100% identical.
I see you have added three new sources. [14] would be useless from a serious source (it is at the very best an interview) is from a website that is somewhere between a blog hosting service and a PR press (see the "submit news" tab). Similarly, that one comes from a website with a "write for us" form. And the third one is a passing mention.
@Dadu1212: Please tell us what relationship if any you have with Arfius Al-din, and after that take a look at WP:42 for the kind of sources we want. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:24, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Dadu1212 answered the conflict-of-interest question on my talk page. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:40, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Uhujimfura Jean Claude

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Sources mention him, but aren't about him; they are about his company and the talent show organised by them. I thus redirected this page to the company Kikac Music, but was reverted by the article creator. Suggest redirecting again. Fram (talk) 10:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Fram (talk), Redirecting is good but it is better if you let me look for appropriate references, I am going to improve this article thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proyezu (talkcontribs) 10:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Carolus Nolet

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I couldn't find evidence that he passes WP:GNG. The only source provided in the article is a forbes list of billionaires which is not enough to show notability. WP:BEFORE search hampered by his son also having the same name. I couldn't find evidence that he has notability outside of the company that he is chairman of. Possible redirect target would be Ketel One. Suonii180 (talk) 23:25, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete I question whether just being a billionaire is enough to confer notability. (Also, do we count it in dollars, euros or what?) PatGallacher (talk) 23:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Is he "just a billionaire", as you say, or also an accomplished business leader? Maybe read up a bit on the subject? gidonb (talk) 17:07, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Ketel One. On his own, he has no in-depth coverage. He is only known as the CEO and heir to Ketel One. MartinWilder (talk) 01:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Merge into Ketel One. Nolet passes the WP:GNG. Still, the article so short that we're better off merging. Most of Nolet's fame is related to Ketel One. gidonb (talk) 16:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
    • I'm not sure what information there is to merge over. Ketel One already states that he took over in 1979 and other than that the only information in his article is that he's a billionaire and has two children which I don't think are relevant enough to add to the company's article. I don't think at present that the article does pass WP:GNG as it only has one source that doesn't provide in-depth information about him. Suonii180 (talk) 18:35, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
I have added a useful data point plus reference. There are many more possible sources. This business leader (in this AfD belittled to just a rich man) passes the WP:GNG. Per WP:NEXIST, Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. The bold is in the source. But all that does not matter. Since the article is so short, we should merge anyway. gidonb (talk) 21:37, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Phaedra Parks

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Non-notable reality show participant. Keeps getting re-created from redirect. Fails GNG, absolutely no in-depth coverage about this person outside show. Onel5969 TT me 12:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

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Obi Iyiegbu

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BLP tagged for notability since July. The article makes no real claim of notability and the sources provided don’t suggest it either. I didn’t find anything else to help build a case for inclusion. Mccapra (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Weak Keep  – The subject is famous for being rich but there's actually lots of coverage under his COMMONNAME; Obi Cubana. Princess of Ara 14:38, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Is that in sources you think are reliable and independent? Mccapra (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Yes, [15][16][17] [18][19][20][21][22][23][24].

Keep  – something prompted me to search for his name and somehow, I found this wikipage. The entity is notable for philanthropic acts. I’ve moved the page to his known name. Reading BeansTalk to the Beans 07:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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Sandeep Engineer

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Entity is being promoted. Note, WP:NOTCV. Possible WP:UPE/WP:COI. Besides that, it lack WP:SIGCOV, WP:NPOV . Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. - Hatchens (talk) 04:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep: The article needs a clean up. Although the current version is filled with poor sources, I could find WP:FORBES sources with significant coverage.[25][26] and another one from Business Standard.[27] - SUN EYE 1 03:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

John Morris (Business professional)

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Resumé and promotional article on a Non notable businessman who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them and also doesn’t meet WP:ANYBIO. A before search links me to primary sources, a plethora of press releases bordering on churnalism. I fail to see how holding executive leadership positions at non notable technology startups and Fortune 500 companies meets or is a requirement that demonstrates notability being met. Celestina007 (talk) 23:24, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete- Couple things- very little coverage in secondary sources, and it seems like the article creator has a COI, given that they tried to create an article for the business that this subject if an executive of... Just look at their contributions [28]. Definitely a Delete to me. Spf121188 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
    • I really think we need to create a rule that someone have say 25 contributions that are editing existing articles before they can create a first article. We have way too many drive-by contributors who start out either creating an article with which they had a COI, or who rush into creating an article without fully understanding the notability guidelines. At the same time we have an even larger problem of too many existing articles lacking even semi-adequate sources. The number of articles that have had a tag since 2009 or earlier, so for over 12 years, saying they have no sources is staggering.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Edmund O. Schweitzer Jr.

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This is probably the wrorst sourced article I have ever seen in Gpedia, except those with no sources. The only source is the Social Security death index, which is a public database in the US that since 1965 or so has included probably over 85% of all deaths in the US. Actually there has to be other unlisted sources, because that database is not the actual source here. The person who created this article also created an article on the subject's son, and the company the son created, and those are all their contributitions. I was going to suggest redirecting to the company he founded, but the article on the company he founded is a redirect to the article on a different company his son founded. My search for information on him came up with no substnative sources, just patent listings, which are primary sources, and by no means is everyone who has been granted a patent notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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Riniki Bhuyan Sarma

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Except being Chief Minister's wife, she has no notability. Her page was created after her husband became Chief Minister. Moreover, being an owner of a local news channel can not make her eligible for Wiki. Requesting higher level to look up the matter. - Arunudoy (talk) 01:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete The coverage in WP:RS found above is all focused on corruption allegations. Neither does it appear WP:SUSTAINED nor can it be covered here due to WP:BLPCRIME requirement on conviction. The Guwahati Plus source the page currently depends heavily upon, is an interview and hence WP:PRIMARY (the site does not inspire any confidence about reliability or independence, founder claims to be a marketing professional). Her own channel has nothing that amounts to WP:SIGCOV. --Hemantha (talk) 04:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Bernard Sarrazain

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Fails GNG, no reliable coverage Pridemanty (talk) 08:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Gabrielle Geppert

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Accepted via AfC back in 2012 (am not sure how its issues didn't get flagged then), would never be accepted nowadays. BLP without any cited references (already an issue in itself). Gabrielle Geppert has a successful vintage shop, but this is not sufficent to confer notability as there seems to be very little readily accessible reliable sources about her, other than advertisements/promo in guidebooks, passing mentions of visits to her shop. (Jennifer Aniston dropped in once.) I couldn't spot any articles specifically talking about the shop that might have shown that the store had published notability in itself, let alone several reliable third party articles that would have collected together to demonstrate notability. The sources listed in the article (but not cited) seem to mainly be promotional, or self-published blogs. It was created by a single-purpose editor who has made no edits outside the article, and again last year by another single-purpose editor whose 5 Gpedia edits were all on this article. Sadly, I don't think there is sufficient notability to be found here per Gpedia's rules. Mabalu (talk) 00:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Ritch Esra

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No coverage. Refs are profiles and passing mentions. Fails sigcov and blpprimary. scope_creepTalk 16:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Ref 1. Newspaper article.
Ref 2. Academic article. States of Esra Ritch Esra, former A&R director at Arista Records. Passing mention.
Ref 3. Gavin Report. It is an event listing page and is non-RS.
Ref 4. Billboard page. It states: Inside A&R: The Heartbeat of the Record Company, Ritch Esra, artist consultant, author. Passing mention.
Ref 5. Ritch Esra This is a profile, likely written by himself, as seems to be the case now.
Ref 6. Man who discovered Kiss It is a link to an interview on youtube at [32] and has been watched by 1636 people. Primary references.
Ref 7. Music Connection's April 2013 Issue by Music Connection - Issuu . It stated “We want MUBUTV to be the trusted source to help break the next generation of artists,” says Ritch Esra, one of the co-founders of MUBUTV. Passing mention.
Ref 8 A&R Think Tank: New Realities of Finding New Recording Artists Press-release.

There is not a single reference here, apart from the first one that I can't view, that constitutes a real secondary sources. They are passing mentions, profiles, non-rs links, press-releases. The next block is more of the same so I'm not doing it. It fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. The guy is simply non-notable. scope_creepTalk 10:26, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete. The dude has a job. When part of your job is to publicize things, it's inevitable that you will be passingly mentioned in a bunch of places, but this does not amount to substantial coverage in secondary sources. Nothing on this page is any different from anyone else who has the job, and wikipedia isn't one's resume. FalconK (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and discussion above. Oaktree b (talk) 02:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Raviv Zoller

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BLP disguised as business brochure article. Fails WP:SIGCOV. No effective references. Fails WP:BLPPRIMARY. scope_creepTalk 11:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Globes: Ref 1 Raviv Zoller to be appointed Israel Chemicals CEO]. This a routine announcement of work. It is primary.
The Marker: Ref 10 Ness Technologies Names Outsider as New CEO That is exact same news as above, indicating it comes from a press-release. It is a routine annoucement. Not in-depth either.
Reuters: I don't see it.
Calcalist Ref 4: Raviv Zoller: "I did not ask for a salary. I said, do you want me? I'm coming Raviv Zoller will likely be appointed CEO of Israel Chemicals More routine coverage. Not in-depth.
Haaretz Ref 3: Raviv Zoller, CEO of Ness Technologies It has a cv style listing of his work, age etc at the end of the article. It is primary and is PR. Fails WP:SIRS because it is so company orientated for this BLP.
Jerusalem Post Ref 7: The lounge. It is passing mention. His name is mention and nothing else. Not references satisfy the guidelines. Not in-depth.

Of all those references there, not one of them can be used to establish notability safely. They are standard annoucements, PR, WP:PRIMARY or very low quality. The are the standard type of coverage that any senior person gets, but there needs to be more depth and I can't get. scope_creepTalk 19:19, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Oppose Seems the counterarguments are just nit-picking an otherwise well sourced article. Someone is worried about it sounding like a PR brochure. As with all other articles and biographies, if there is something negative about the man to include, then - like with all other articles - include it! This person has done more notable things in his life than most people: Founder of Ness Technologies Inc., chair of Clal Underwriting, CEO of IDI Insurance, and President/CEO of Israel Chemicals. And all of this is sourced! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steal the Kosher Bacon (talkcontribs) 09:26, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Starting a company, becoming a ceo of a company and becoming the president of a company doesn't make you automatically notable. Gpedia has strict policies against making a BLP look like a PR brochure. Your comments indicate that your a paid editor. scope_creepTalk 03:26, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
What???? Go through my edit history and user contributions - seriously? Your comments indicate that you didn't even read what I wrote! Steal the Kosher Bacon (talk) 05:25, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

CommentScope Creep, you are deleting information from the article based on reliable sources, apparently to empty the article of content and prove the subject in non-notable. Now let's get rational. If a company decides on strategic moves under the leadership of a CEO, how can you say that there is no connection to the CEO? How can you say that the business decisions and state of the company have no place in the biography of its CEO?? Your efforts to improve Gpedia are certainly welcome. There are thousands of ridiculous entries and it's good to have someone looking out, but in this case, the person heads one of Israel's largest corporations and is worthy of an entry. I have been editing and writing articles on Gpedia for a very long time, and I believe I can sniff out problems as well as you. If you look at the history, you can see I have dedicated myself to improving the encyclopedia. Deleting may be valid in many cases, but not this one. Best, --Geewhiz (talk) 06:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

You seem to be very quick jump to conclusions, particularly since you haven't single edit to the article. This is type of information I removed: the ICL Group has become part of the global food production chain, venturing into new areas such as the meat substitute market. That is promotional. We will go through the references today. scope_creepTalk 21:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
A click on their username would reveal that it is a nickname for Gilabrand, a heavy contributor to the article. Havradim (talk) 22:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose How can the CEO of a company with 11,000 employees be non-notable?

ICL is one of Israel's biggest companies.

Notability is not inherited from a company. One does not get covered in an encylopaedia merely because they run a large company. Gpedia is a reference of work to provide the sum of all human knowledge, not a soap box for a CEO. Such-change47 (talk) 12:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

The book "Entrepreneurship in the Global Economy" published by Cambridge university press discusses his career in detail so the claim that the sources are not in-depth is inaccurate. There are also several interviews with him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaterLord1980 (talkcontribs) 11:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

A WP:SPA with no editing experience or link to the article except as a paid editor. scope_creepTalk 11:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Lets examine the references:
Ref 1. Raviv Zoller to be appointed Israel Chemicals CEO This is routine appointment news. It is primary and is both an interview and comes from a press release].
Ref 2. [33]
Ref 3. Raviv Zoller, CEO of Ness Technologies The 10 largest customers of Ness Technologies This is promotional and is not independent.
Ref 4. Raviv Zoller: "I did not ask for a salary. I said, do you want me? I'm coming Raviv Zoller will likely be appointed CEO of Israel Chemicals. Routine coverage. In the first interview since taking office, he is moved by the professional challenge. This is an interview and is primary.
Ref 5. This is a genuine source.
Ref 6. Israel Chemicals appoints IDI Insurance head as new CEO This comes from the same press-release as reference 1.
Ref 7. The lounge. It is passing mention. His name is mention and nothing else. Not in-depth.
Ref 8. Prospectus This is non-RS. Shouldn't be in the article.
Ref 9. Raviv Zoller appointed CEO of ICL Press-release.
Ref 10. Ness Technologies Names Outsider as New CEO Routine coverage of a job annoucement.
Ref 11. [34] Real secondary source.
Ref 12. [www.business-standard.com/article/companies/ness-tech-acquires-innova-for-25-million-106022201136_1.html Ness Tech acquires Innova for $25 million] Press-release.
Ref 13. Non-RS.
Ref 14. Israel's Ness buys APAR Infotech for $78 M Press-release
Ref 15. Ness Technologies Continues Tradition of Hosting World Leaders at Annual Customer Conference Press-release.
Ref 16. Ness Technology : Al Gore to Ness Technologies' Clients and Business Partners: Addressing Global Environmental Concerns Should be the World's Top Priority Prnewswire Press-prelease.
Ref 17. Giuliani visits Israel Routine annoucement
Ref 18. Ness wins $10m IDF contract Routine annoucement from a press-release.

Reference summation

Ref 1 Independent No Reliable No Not independent
Ref 2 Unable to access. Looks like a good secondary source
Ref 3 Independent No Reliable No Significant coverage No Not independent
Ref 4 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Not significant
Ref 5 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage Yes (Four paragraphs)
Ref 6 Independent Yes Reliable No Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 7 Independent Yes' Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Not significant
Ref 8 Non-RS
Ref 9 Independent Yes' Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 10 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Not significant
Ref 11 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage Yes (Same ref as ref 5)
Ref 12 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 13 Non-RS
Ref 14 Independent No Reliable No Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 15 Independent No Reliable No Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 16 Independent No Reliable No Significant coverage No Press-release
Ref 17 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Not significant
Ref 18 Independent Yes Reliable Yes Significant coverage No Press-release

The whole article is built on two secondary sources that confirm that he was in the Navy and he is businessman who founded Ness, along with a Cambridge University published book that is likely a good secondary source. The rest are routine annoucements, mostly based on press-releases that are not independent, along with several articles that don't provide significant coverage. The references are atrocious. There has been an attempt at canvassing. scope_creepTalk 12:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

After looking closer at the sources I see that another book cited is "If you really want to change the world", published by Harvard business review press. Cambridge and Harvard would not write about non-notables. WaterLord1980 (talk) 12:34, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

There are at least two sock-puppets / Single-purpose accounts involved in this discussion User:WaterLord1980 and Philippe1226; maybe if we search carefuly we can discover a lot more.

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  • Delete wow, longest puff-piece I've seen. Nothing notable. Oaktree b (talk) 23:21, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Notable without a doubt. Oaktree would do better to read up on the subjects he knows nothing about. I see from their user contributions that they are a serial deletionist who goes from one deletion page to another claiming "non-notability" with no demonstrated knowledge of the people/countries/businesses involved. The aggressiveness being shown here is unbelievable. Anybody who disagrees is automatically labeled a "paid editor" or a "sockpuppet." Sad, sad, that what was supposed to be a joint effort in which everyone is welcome to contribute has become a battleground where everyone is suspected of ulterior motives.--Geewhiz (talk) 10:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
@Gilabrand: I would urge you to calm yourself with the personal attacks. They are not well liked by the admin corps and will likely lead to a block if you continue doing it. scope_creepTalk 12:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Oaktree's been a trusted editor for the last decade and has been given auto-patrolled status, so he understands notability standards. Won an award for a photograph recently on Gpedia Commons, so he has an understanding of what is required. Thanks for explaining this though. Perhaps you should review Gpedia:Civility for an explanation, it's a code of conduct, not a list of "nice rules". Personal attacks are below what we're discussing here and we'd ask you to keep it to yourself, please and thank you. Oaktree b (talk) 21:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. Very notable. A CEO of such a large company. Atbannett (talk) 12:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Yes, but what about the lack of quality sources? Saying he is notable without addressing the lack of coverage is problematic. There must be WP:SECONDARY sources for a BLP. scope_creepTalk 12:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
To add to this, being the CEO of a large company of any size or having a large amount of money isn't by itself enough to make a person notable. WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE doesn't even assume it for fortune 500 CEOs, which this one isn't. While the fortune 500 CEOs are usually notable, it's not merely on account of their job; it's been a strong indicator because they usually have a bunch of substantial independent press that this one doesn't. That makes him some person with a job. FalconK (talk) 05:36, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep (I wrote this article and mentioned COI) He is an Israeli President and CEO. He has been serving as ICL´s President and CEO since May 2018. Prior to joining ICL, from 2008, Zoller served as the CEO of I.D.I. Insurance Company Ltd., which is listed on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. In 1999, he founded Ness Technologies Inc., which began trading on NASDAQ in 2004 and served as its President and CEO until 2007.Ovedc (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
This editor is being paid for his comments and as such he a coi. scope_creepTalk 15:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Lots of Jewish Isreali based editor's here now, commenting. Not one of them mentioning the dodgy sources. scope_creepTalk 15:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
This is plainly cavassing: Atabtnett and especially Danny-W are not active in the english wikipedia, they are friends of OVEDC (the paid contributor), he asked them to help him. The Israeli editors doing this all time, e.g. Gpedia:Articles for deletion/Roey Peleg (2nd nomination). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:ED0:5F5A:D400:3072:5F19:57A4:7429 (talk) 15:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment We've seen what he's done, but it's not notable, as explained above. We aren't saying he isn't notable, but based on what we have here, not worthy of a wikipedia article. Being Jewish Iraeli is besides the point, it helps to have a neutral, third-party point of view. Again, please stop with the personal attacks, we hold contributors to a higher standard and expect they do the same. A Canadian Roman Catholic if that matters (it does not, thank you very much). Oaktree b (talk) 21:17, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Motion that we close this this descussion, the discussion has devolved into personal attacks and useless banter. Two sources, simply confirming he exists. Nothing to prove notability has arisen. Delete until proven otherwise. Ban the sockpupuets and censor the paid editors that devolve into personal attacks. Oaktree b (talk) 23:11, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
They're is not one policy based argument amongst the lot of them. I'm thinking of taking the whole lot of them to ANI. They are tag teaming, which is probably disruptive. scope_creepTalk 00:27, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
I can support this. Oaktree b (talk) 01:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Redirect to ICL Group Ltd.. Per WP:NOTLINKEDIN, a stand-alone article is not warranted here. Per nom, the sources in Hebrew are just as deficient, similar to a US CEO written up in Forbes, and the paid editing is a problem. A few of the references do not even mention him, or only do so in passing. However, this person does exist, and redirecting to the company is a better option than deleting. A line or a small paragraph about him would suffice. Havradim (talk) 23:05, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete this WP:RESUME. I can't find any notability criteria that are clear-cut in support of this page, and the page doesn't describe anything that is noteworthy in the historical record at all; this only exists to promote the dude's work. FalconK (talk) 05:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete - The analysis of references demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt this article subject does not meet notability guidelines. While not in of itself evidence the article must be deleted, it is highly persuasive given the article reads like a resume. I recommend delete for these reasons. Such-change47 (talk) 12:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep - As others have pointed out, there is public interest. I will add the fact that millions of Google results are obtained by searching for the name of the company headed by Raviv (ICL GROUP LTD). ~Jacob ~ סטודנט של החיים (talk) 17:31, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Another WP:SPA who made exactly one edit. scope_creepTalk 12:43, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete as discussed ALL above reasons. Non-notable fellow other than for doing his job. When it devolves into personal attacks, you know it's not worth keeping. Oaktree b (talk) 00:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Daniel Sillman

Daniel Sillman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Businessman BLP does not seem to meet WP:NBIO. Notability is inherited from his company Relevent Sports Group and coverage of the individual is largely churnalism articles. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Daniel Sillman is one of the most important soccer executives in the United States as referenced by the sources. He has created international soccer tournaments which has been referenced in NY Times and Sports Illustrated articles. He has produced two major soccer films (individually named as an executive producer) which have been written about in the Guardian and ESPN. In addition, and separated from Relevent, he is a business advisor of Draymond Green as cited by NY Times. And Daniel has received industry awards also cited. Multiple other editors have made edits to the page without issue. The editor in this case is targeting multiple pages that I have edited and has accused me of gaming the system. Following standards, Daniel more than meets requirements and it is unfortunate that one editor seems to be targeting me despite more than proper attribution, etc.Bankrupt305 (talk) 12:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

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Which sources do you believe support that WP:GNG is met? Also, please note that WP:PRESERVE discusses article content and is not relevant for deletion discussions. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
IMO, WP:Preserve is relevant and dispositive in deletion discusssion. Ipse dixit doesn't apply to your claim. Read it and make up your own mind. YMMV. Regards, 7&6=thirteen () 14:16, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Do you have any evidence supporting your claim that WP:PRESERVE is relevant for article deletion discussions?

And again, which sources do you believe support that WP:GNG is met?

Ipse dixit (IMHO a cheap shot that adds nothing to this discussion) also applies to your arguments currently. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 21:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep, sources (some added since nomination TBF) appear to show he meets WP:GNG individually. Current refs #2 (New York Business Journal), #5 (SportBusiness Daily) and #15 (Inc.com) all focus on him. Fully agree these aren't national newspapers but he is a businessman and they are business publications (not familiar with them but they look OK to me, seem to be actual entities rather than advertising puff fake sites, but could be wrong). Difficult to quantify his achievements but he is clearly genuinely a CEO of a relatively successful company in a high-profile sector. If that's not deemed enough for a standalone article at present, then it should be Merged into Relevant Sports, as per GNG "If a topic does not meet these criteria but still has some verifiable facts, it might be useful to discuss it within another article". Crowsus (talk) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 15:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • delete - what sources are there that detail signifiant coverage? GiantSnowman 15:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • comment - struggling to find WP:SIGCOV. Anyone have an article from an RS that talks about the subject, rather than just mentioning them? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:35, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Sure Lee Vilenski. Here is one https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/why-one-of-most-successful-ceos-and-entrepreneurs-youve-never-heard-of-still-thinks-he-has-a-lot-to-learn.html. Bankrupt305 (talk) 23:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • delete/merge - Tend to agree with nominator and GiantSnowman. After editing the RSG article, in early 2021, I was approached via my Talk page (discussion) to review a similar draft article (here). My view then was that it didn't meet GNG or NBIO (too much reliance on RSG PR-derived coverage), and I am not sure that this article does either. Paul W (talk) 11:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Paul W (talk) . Doesn't this article more than satisfy that? Haden, Jeff (May 30, 2019). "Why One of the Most Successful CEOs (and Entrepreneurs) You've Never Heard of Still Thinks He Has a Lot to LearnHe runs Relevent, has invested in a number of companies with high-profile partners, yet few know him. Which may be a secret to his success". Inc. Retrieved January 10, 2022. Also, since you reviewed the last article, there is new news that Daniel is an executive producer of a major Netflix project about Neymar. https://www.orcasound.com/2022/01/03/neymar-the-perfect-chaos-a-netflix-documentary-series/. He's right behind LeBron James and Maverick Carter in the list of Executive Producers. Thank you for your consideration. Bankrupt305 (talk) 14:02, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Difficult for me to say. I am a UK-based editor unfamiliar with Inc (and I am wary of interviews as sources as they can be publicist-instigated creations that provide the subject with a platform to make assertions that aren't always reliably fact-checked). I am swayed towards the merge option - perhaps it's WP:TOOSOON and in a few more months we will have more significant reliable independent sourcing. Paul W (talk) 19:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:58, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete - while there are several claims above stating that he passes WP:GNG, none have addressed which articles they feel accomplish that. Interviews, being primary, do not count towards notability. And searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show that he passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 15:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

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Munaf Kapadia

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Fails WP:ANYBIO, largely WP:SELFPROMOTIONAL sources. Dan arndt (talk) 08:12, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Gogoi, Angarika (2020-06-30). "He Quit Google to Sell Samosas. Today, His Fans Include Movie Stars!". The Better India. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article provides biographical background about the subject: "He pursued a BBA degree in Marketing from Narsee Monjee College of Commerce and Economics in Mumbai from 2006-2009. Soon after, he finished an MBA degree from Narsee Monjee Institute of Management Studies. Fresh out of college in 2011, Munaf worked with Wrigley’s as a management trainee and became one of the few area Managers in the country."

    2. Khan, Shazma (2017-07-18). "The man who quits Google to sell samosas". Business Recorder. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "Munaf Kapadia, who decided to turn his mother’s recipe into a brand, is a 28-year-old Muslim residing in Mumbai, India. An MBA graduate, Munaf got a job offer from Google after working for a few years in India. ... Quitting his job at Google, Munaf started ‘The Bohri Kitchen’ in India with the idea of keeping his mother Nafisa busy. ... This is not a regular restaurant, it had gained so much popularity that the restaurant is one of the favorites among renowned Indian celebrities including Rani Mukerjee and Farah Khan."

    3. Pillai, Pooja (2018-05-06). "Families in Food: Mother's Recipe. How a son is taking his mother's delectable Bohri dishes to Mumbai homes". The Indian Express. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "Kapadia, 29, who was then working at Google, emailed his friends asking if anyone would pay for a traditional Bohri meal at his house in Colaba. The email got circulated and soon he had his first customer who brought her friends for a meal at his place."

    4. Pratap, Rashmi (2018-03-10). "Come home to food". Business Line. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "And it is planning about positioning that has helped Munaf. TBK is a brand well known through social media. It is on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, and Munaf actively updates his contacts on TBK’s menu as well as future plans on various media. The increase in visibility and demand led him to open a kitchen in Worli from where he supplies Bohri food for delivery."

    5. Lazarus, Susanna Myrtle (2015-10-08). "Plating up a meaty meal". The Hindu. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "The Kapadias are a typical Bohri family who love their food, and with Nafisa being a great cook, Munaf had been toying with the idea of showcasing her talent and his community’s food for a few years. One morning, while he asked her his ritual question, it struck him that what sounded so normal to him might sound exotic to anyone who doesn’t know about their food. ... This was 10 months ago, and in the short period since, their popularity has soared. Bringing their food and concept outside Mumbai for the first time, TBK has collaborated with Ashvita Bistro to bring the same experience to Chennai this weekend, with lunch and dinner menus."

    6. Makhijani, Vishnu (2021-05-02). "Up close and Personal Munaf Kapadia: The Bohri Kitchen Story". The Shillong Times. Indo-Asian News Service. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "Munaf Kapadia, founder of the hugely successful The Bohri Kitchen that in five years, hosted close to 4,000 home diners on weekends and at its peak in 2019 was delivering 1,000 biryanis a day across Mumbai, writes in “How I Quit Google To Sell Samosas” (HarperCollins)."

    7. Mathai, Anjuly (2021-05-02). "Munaf Kapadia: From selling ads at Google to selling samosas at The Bohri Kitchen". The Week. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "The guy who quit Google to sell samosas has now written a book titled… yep, you guessed it: How I Quit Google to Sell Samosas. Munaf Kapadia’s story of starting The Bohri Kitchen (TBK)—a unique home-dining experience designed around the culinary traditions of the Dawoodi Bohra community—is the stuff of social media lore. That is because Kapadia, 31, a former account strategist at Google, not only has an engaging story to tell, but he is also great at selling his story."

    8. Borah, Jahnabee (2021-04-29). "Selling samosas in a pandemic: Munaf Kapadia, founder of The Bohri Kitchen, traces his entrepreneurial journey in a new book". Mint. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article provides biographical background about the subject: "Kapadia, who belongs to the Bohri Muslim community, and his mother began offering home-cooked meal experiences to guests in 2014."

    9. "Munaf Kapadia details his extraordinary journey from Google to Bohra food in new book". ThePrint. 2021-04-06. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article provides biographical background about the subject: "Kapadia completed his MBA from Mumbai’s Narsee Monjee Institute of Management Studies and worked for four years as an Account Strategist at Google India before establishing ‘The Bohri Kitchen’ in 2014."

    10. Pandya-Wagh, Kinjal (2017-10-09). "'I quit Google and launched a business with my mum'". BBC Online. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "Munaf Kapadia runs a successful 'pop up' restaurant at his family's home in Mumbai. His mother also works as head chef."

    11. Kumar, Sanjay (2017-08-18). "Munaf Kapadia: A Google exec who became a samosa seller". Arab News. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "His parents were initially apprehensive, but they started supporting him once he and TBK started getting attention from the media and Bollywood. ... Popular names in the Mumbai film industry, such as directors Farah Khan and Ashutosh Gowarikar, started visiting his home."

    12. Shenoy, Sonali (2017-06-16). "Munaf Kapadia wants to take Bohri cuisine from Mumbai to Manhattan". Indulge (The New Indian Express). Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "What started out as a weekend project inviting people home to try his mother’s food in 2014, has fast expanded into a business model with a delivery kitchen and catering business. So much so that Munaf decided to leave his job at Google where he handled a $10 million portfolio to sell mutton kheema samosas instead."

    13. Sawant, Anagha (2020-03-07). "For this MBA graduate mom's cooking skills helped build a Rs 4 crore turnover eatery chain leaving a cushy job". The Weekend Leader. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "In one stroke Munaf Kapadia, a former Google employee, did four things. First, he exposed his mother’s culinary skills to the world. Second, he popularised his community’s Bohri cuisine in Mumbai, third, he gave foodies a go-to dining spot, and the fourth and best part - he made a lot of money out of all this."

    14. Nair, Priyanka (2017-06-08). "This MBA graduate quit his job at Google to sell mutton samosas". The Economic Times. Archived from the original on 2021-05-02. Retrieved 2021-05-02.

      The article notes: "In 2015, Munaf Kapadia, an MBA graduate who was working with Google, decided to keep his mother Nafisa away from daily soaps on TV by starting a food project. The Kapadias belong to the Bohri community, who are popular for their lip-smacking thaal (a platter that consists of everything from mutton samosas, nargis kebabs, dabba gosht, kaari chawal and much more)."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Munaf Kapadia to pass Gpedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 12:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Munaf Kapadia has received international coverage in the BBC and in Arab News. He received significant coverage in major Indian publications like Business Line, The Economic Times, The Hindu, The Indian Express, and Mint. He received sustained significant coverage in 2015, 2017, 2018, 2020, and 2021.

    Regarding editors' comments about the article's being spam, I agree with KylieTastic (talk · contribs) at the previous AfD that "I don't see any reason to suspect COI here as the author has been around for almost four years and has created several articles India authors and their books." I reviewed the article and found it neutrally written.

    Regarding editors' comments at the previous AfD about the independence of the sources, the sources include quotes from the subject but there is also substantial commentary and reporting.

    Regarding editors' comments at the previous AfD about the article not demonstrating sufficient notability, per Gpedia:Notability#Article content does not determine notability, "Notability is a property of a subject and not of a Gpedia article. ... if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Gpedia article will not decrease the subject's notability."

    Cunard (talk) 12:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete: I have been pinged as one who offered an opinion in the initial discussion which closed as No Consensus. I am grateful for the ping, the more so since I disagree. I note that Kapadia is eight months or so further forward in his business, but, despite Cunard's analysis of the references, am not yet persuaded this is other than WP:TOOSOON. I am disturbed by the retention of the Forbes Fie of Fum non RS reference. I still see him as "I see a decent hardworking chap, either WP:ROTM or WP:BLP1E at present" (quoting from the prior discussion)
    I do see coverage in RS, but of insufficient quality in my view to allow me to move from ROTM to Notable. I would opt for a soft delete because the door should be left wide open for future notability without the risk of immediate speedy deletion as a re-created article deleted at AfD. Equally, either a particular and special "thing" needs to render him notable, or a period of circa 12 months should elapse to see whether a natural notability has established for him. Fails WP:BIO / WP:NAUTHOR at present FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 19:51, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep Pinged to respond, I note that the BBC and The Hindu sources are sufficient by themselves to meet GNG. All the rest of the debate about promotion (what business doesn't promote?) and non-independence of other sources are irrelevant: Major RS's including the BBC and The Hindu cover him in non-trivial detail. Arguments that he fails specific SNGs and/or is engaged in promotion are non-policy-based arguments. GNG is met, full stop. Jclemens (talk) 21:24, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete — please I do not see adequate WP:SIGCOV in reliable sources totally independent of the subject optimized, there are a few but i am sorry they aren’t sufficient. Thank you. Celestina007 (talk) 22:14, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep I created it because I didn't (and don't) see how GNG isn't met. The person has been talked about in multiple, international, mainstream, reliable sources. And the coverage ranges back to 2015/2016, it's not like he appeared out of nowhere because of self-promotion in 2021. GNG is definitely met and notability has been established. Dial911 (talk) 23:07, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Rename to either Nafisa Kapadia or The Bohri Kitchen The articles all begin and end with "my mother". What's covered in depth is the kitchen and the food, not the subject in the title. Sources aren't independent in my opinion, but with Hindu and BBC in there, it's futile to argue that. --Hemantha (talk) 10:11, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Changing to Delete because I was wrong to think Hindu and BBC can't be argued with. --hemantha (brief) 03:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete for what it is worth. The guy was an ex google Account strategist. All the references presented above are paid PR and nothing else. The reason the BBC picked it up, is it reached it threshold and had to reported on. It is far too soon to determine notability. The perceived notabilty of the article is being driven by a PR campaign. It seems to be something Gpedia and Gpedia editors are prone to. They simply can't seem to tell the difference between quality and poor references. They're is a base assumption that quantity means quality, and they're is an assumption that because the source is deemed to be RS, that somehow that makes it automatically good, which is fundamentally false. All these paper's accept advertising, in large amounts. It is their lifeblood and ensures their survival to report the real news. This isn't news. Its fake. The only exception here is the BBC, because it is government run, but even BBC when it sees a trend, must report on it. The company that Kapadia worked for, runs the most expansive and professional advertsing agency on the planet. All he would need to do, is turn around and ask a friend to advertise his book and business for him and that would be that. A mates help. Simple as that. The evidence is there, in the articles. They all look the same, they are essentially the same contents, reworded for different audiences but the same with same images. All of it was done to support the book release. It is classic PR advertising exercise, created using the advertising budget from HarperCollins. The very presence of so many stories about this person, opening a restuarant and then going to Harper Collins and saying I want to writ a book about it, is suspect. Aside from the curiosity factor of being an ex-google guy who opened a restuarant, which enough for story, there is nothing that not been done a thousand times before, in this year alone. It so common, particularly in the UK, it is well trodden path. It essentially about a man starting a busines and getting an article on Gpedia. It is so mediocre. scope_creepTalk 11:23, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep I vote to keep the article. Gpedia's GNG guidelines have been more than met through the use of several reliable sources - The Hindu, BBC, The Economic Times, The Times of India, The Financial Express etc. Cunard has done a meticulous job of highlighting the various publications that have carried pieces on the achievements of the subject. Most importantly, since the self-promoting nature of the Gpedia page is under question, the earliest sources cited appear to date back to 2015. The subject has been written about in various publications, for various reasons (fundraising, entrepreneurship, mental health) across a span of at least 5 years before the book was launched in April 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krunchykookie (talkcontribs) 18:44, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
User is a WP:SPA. scope_creepTalk 20:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. I can sympathize with the idea that at least some of the coverage might be a well deployed publicity stunt, and I share the annoyance over Gpedia as a repository of such publicity stunts (and an active part) by wealthy and/or arrogant people. That being said, at some point, once that stunt has reached the BBC and others, things get tricky. We created notability guidelines that are hard for pure stunts to get through, but inevitably some really, really good ones will check all the boxes on paper. That seems to be happening here. I'd certainly keep an eye on the article in the future to make sure it doesn't just become a free billboard, but as it stands, it does seem to meet the SIGCOV threshold. WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 16:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep All this article needs is extensive cleanup. This should perhaps be rewritten. The subject is independently subject to several reliable sources and has been discussed in much detail. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:51, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete essentially advertising. That's a violation of NOTADVOCACY, a basic principle, and much more important to our survival than the notability guideline. DGG ( talk ) 17:45, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per DGG. I'd like o add that had somebody tagged this for speedy deletion as spam (G11), I'd have deleted it without thinking twice. --Randykitty (talk) 19:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: The version of the article when nominated for deletion on 29 December 2021 was short and neutrally written:

    Munaf Kapadia is an Indian author and entrepreneur. He founded The Bohri Kitchen, an experiential dining concept in Bombay with his mother Nafisa Kapadia.[1][2] Kapadia won Grilled[3] reality series,(Fox Life) in 2017 and subsequently raised a round of seed funding for The Bohri Kitchen.[4][5] He was a 2017 finalist of Forbes 30 Under 30 India list,[6]

    Book

    Kapadia's book How I Quit Google to Sell Samosas[7] published in April 2021 by Harper Collins tells the story of how he quit his job at Google India to turn a weekend food pop-up into a successful food delivery venture.[8][9][10]

    Positivepeace (talk · contribs) added a lot of information and sources to the article. Much this material is promotionally written. A lot of it adds good biographical information about the subject which is why I have not reverted their changes. I am fine if any other editor thinks the changes make the article so promotional that they should be reverted.

    G11 does not apply because Gpedia:Criteria for speedy deletion notes, "A page is eligible for speedy deletion only if all of its history is also eligible." Supporting deletion of this article because promotional content was added in the middle of the AfD is a very weak reason for deletion. It would give incentive to bad actors who could make an article so promotional that editors would support deletion (I am not saying that is Positivepeace's intention here). There is a neutral version of the article to revert to if necessary.

    Cunard (talk) 02:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment: I agree here with Cunard (talk · contribs) as I created the article keeping in mind the tone. It changed over time and may now look promotional but that shouldn't be the reason for its deletion, and definitely not G11. I hope Randykitty (talk · contribs) said that figuratively, because if they really would have deleted it without thinking twice, well... Dial911 (talk) 05:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep I do agree that the references seem a bit off, but I am persuaded to weakly keep this based off the sustained (there are spikes of coverage that could be PR, but there's enough coverage outside of those spikes) and international coverage of this person. There is also a bit of coverage of his restaurant from Lonely Planet. To note, I highly suspect Postivepeace is UPE/COI, and if this resolves to a keep their changes likely need much scrutiny. Jumpytoo Talk 11:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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